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Startbeitrag von Graham aus Liverpool am 11.12.2007 18:39


Ein ganz ganz schwierige spiel, aber wann es gibt nuer ein Mann und ein Mannschaft die das noch schaffen kann, dann die heissen Rafael Benitez und Liverpool Football Club.
Wenn, Besiktas in Portugal gewinnt, dann ist ein unentschieden auch fuer Liverpool genug.

Die Vellodrome stadion und zuschauer in Marseille hat eine fanatische zuschauer und deswegen wird es ganz schwierig zu gewinnen aber ich hoffe wir koennen das schaffen, Daume druecken.
Mein tipp: Marseille 1 Liverpool 2


Die heutige Starting XI gegen Marseille: :cool:

Kewell---------------------Gerrard (c)---------------------Mascherano-------------Benayoun

Subs: Itandje, Hobbs, Finnan, Aurelio, Lucas, Babel, Crouch

Mein Tipp: 1-2

C' MON YOU REDS !!! :)

von goleador2000 - am 11.12.2007 19:07
bin ich absolut einverstanden mit !!

MAscherano im Moment ja in ÜBERRAGENDER Form...Was der anpackt wird zu Gold...

Kewell und Benayoun sorgen für Kreativität :)
Kuyt is back :)

ja Torres und Gerrard muss man nichts zu sagen :)

Riise dabei :) könnte für Gefahr nach vorne sorgen.wie es seine Stärke ist

von SvenK - am 11.12.2007 19:13
Bin mit der Sarting XI zufrieden!
1-2 stevie&fernando

von .Marcio. - am 11.12.2007 19:15

von SvenK - am 11.12.2007 19:57

von .Marcio. - am 11.12.2007 21:45

von Graham aus Liverpool - am 11.12.2007 21:57
Gratulation zum Sieg !!!


von BMG-Jonny - am 11.12.2007 22:14
Einfach nur klasse, souverän herausgespielter Sieg da haben auch unserer Amis Nichts zu meckern. Bin hochzufrieden und freu mich auf die Scums:box::drink:

von Lothar - am 11.12.2007 22:16
Hallo Fans !
Was wir gestern abgezogen haben in Marseille war eine absolute Spitzenleistung der gesamten Mannschaft. Kämpferisch, Einstellung, Taktisch, Spielerisch absolute Klasse. Da sieht man erst, was diese Mannschaft leisten kann, wenn die Einstellung stimmt. Wir brauchen uns in Zukunft vor niemand fürchten, denn mit dieser Mannschaft können wir alle schlagen, wenn die Einstellung stimmt. Bravo RAFA und die gesamte Mannschaft. Ich bin stolz und glücklich,daß ich schon 30 Jahre ein Red-Fan bin. Liverpool ist eben LIVERPOOL. Hoffentlich schlagen wir diesesmal die ManU.zu Hause, dann wären wir auf der richtigen Siegesschiene. Die Amis werden hoffentlich die Mannschaft u. RAFA gratulieren, und der ganze Zwist wird hoffentlich endlich beiseite gelegt.

S. G.

von Hati - am 12.12.2007 08:50
Well done lads :-)

Perfekte Leistung gestern.....wird als einer unserer besten Leistungen auswärts in Europa in die Analen eingehn.


von SpionKop - am 12.12.2007 11:17

Marseille 0, Liverpool 4

THAT, Mr Gillett, is what you call more bangs for your buck.

The greatest Spanish striker of his generation? A cool £20m.

A thrilling young Dutchman? £11.5m.

A proven international class centre-forward? That will set you back another £10m.

But the joy experienced by 2,800 Liverpool fans in the old French port of Marseille last night, and hundreds of thousands of Liverpool fans worldwide?

Priceless. Utterly priceless.

Happily the silver-haired half of the American co-owning partnership was inside the Stade Velodrome to witness it.

The last time George Gillett watched his most expensive individual investment in action, he was a half-fit liability who limped out of the home match with Arsenal with a damaged groin muscle.

Last night Fernando Torres scored a goal of utterly breathtaking beauty and enormous significance.

But Torres was not the architect of this memorable victory.

The Spanish matador is a footballing magician, the most prodigiously gifted striker to pull on a Liverpool jersey since Kenny Dalglish was in his pomp. But he is not Liverpool’s MVP. That status belongs to Steven Gerrard.

Americans like their stats, so just lap up some of the Liverpool skipper’s. His second minute strike was the seventh successive match he has scored since the goalless draw at Blackburn.

Not since John Aldridge 20 years ago has a Liverpool player enjoyed such a consistently ruthless run in front of goal. Before that sequence started Gerrard had scored in another three games in succession.

But goals are just the gloss on his game.

In that 11-match run he has directly created another nine goals, while his influence has been felt in numerous others.

He was a colossus once again last night.

But for one agonising moment it appeared that his involvement in this tie had ended after barely three seconds.

That was the time it took for Marseille to close down Liverpool’s kick-off and launch a shuddering challenge on the Reds skipper.

For 60 seconds the near-on 3,000 Liverpool fans crammed into the most visually impaired corner of the Stade Velodrome held their breath.

Another minute later they were exhaling declarations of boundless joy.

Dirk Kuyt threaded a sweet pass into Gerrard’s path – not the last decisive contribution from the Dutchman by a long way – and Gerrard’s first touch was exceptional.

He raced penetratingly into the Marseille penalty box where Gael Givet hauled him down, but somehow stayed on the pitch.

It was a penalty kick laden with significance, and Gerrard was due a miss – but Mandanda could only parry back into the skipper’s path and he gleefully drove the rebound into the roof of the net.

That strike gave Liverpool the platform they craved.

But a barnstorming tackle from Gerrard on former team-mate Bolo Zenden after 20 minutes showed the attitude which proved Liverpool were not in the mood to relinquish their winning position.

They never looked like doing so.

Seven minutes after Gerrard’s goal, Torres struck. The minute should be immaterial. The date observers witnessed such an epic goal should be etched into the memory banks.

It deserves describing in meticulous detail.

Harry Kewell threaded a pass to Torres’ feet on the left edge of a crowded Marseille penalty area.

Like a leopard on Vaseline he glided effortlessly around one marker. He feinted and dragged the ball thrillingly around two others, then he bypassed another futile attempt to halt him before passing the ball precisely into the corner of the Marseille net.

It was a truly glorious strike and it demoralised Marseille, even if their volatile and partisan fans refused to be silenced all night.

Liverpool, however, seemed impervious to the atmosphere – Jamie Carragher suggested afterwards they were even inspired by it.

Because two minutes after half-time the match was as good as won.

Dirk Kuyt’s value to Liverpool’s cause is not always obvious or appreciated. But his role last night tucked in behind Torres was pivotal – and he received the reward his fine display deserved two minutes after the interval.

Goalkeeper Mantanda’s clearance, with the famous Mistral wind behind him, was wretched, but it still took a precise Harry Kewell pass to put the Dutchman through on goal.

He controlled, drew Mantanda and finished clinically.

From that point on Liverpool were in cruise control.

Fourteen minutes from time Rafa Benitez withdrew Torres – to save him for Sunday’s visit of Manchester United, maybe? – but this time there were no recriminations.

But for an injury to Javier Mascherano it was a faultless night for Liverpool – and Ryan Babel’s superbly finished counter-attack just seconds from time put the seal on a famous night.

If only finishing second in the group does bring one of the European giants to Anfield in the first knockout round, that’s for deliberation on another day.

After all, the Reds won their group last season and drew Barcelona!

For now Liverpool supporters can enjoy a magnificent Marseillaise occasion – and anticipate the visit of Manchester United on Sunday with relish.

von Oliver Kahles - am 12.12.2007 17:30

We stood up to the test - Rafa Benitez

RAFA BENITEZ hailed his side's ability to produce the goods when it mattered after masterminding last night 4-0 rout of Marseille.

The win, was the Reds’ third in a row in Group A.

After picking up just one point from their opening three matches, they found form when they needed it with victory at the Stade Velodrome following thrashings against Besiktas (8-0) and Porto (4-1).

Benitez said: “The players have showed character in important games before and they have showed it again.

“When we lost against Besiktas and played badly against Marseille, I said we still had confidence.

“The team was still playing well in the league and scoring goals. That gave us more confidence.

“People are talking about how good the side is compared to last year, but we showed here that we can do different things.

“The performance was really good. We played compact as a unit, played well in attack, had our chances and didn’t concede.”

Steven Gerrard believes a “cup final” mentality in Francehelped the Reds progress.

“The most important words in the team talk were cup final,” he said.

“When the manager says it’s a cup final situation you know you have got to give everything you’ve got.

“From the goalkeeper to the front men, every one of us has done our job.

“We made it difficult for ourselves in this group. We are disappointed it came down to the last game.

“We needed to perform tonight. It was a performance full of character and hard work. We knew we’d got the quality so we’re very happy with the performance.”

Jamie Carragher hailed the performance as one of the best he had been involved in.

He said: “It’s got to be right up there with some of the great results we’ve had. The two early goals put us in a great position.

“We have come out worthy winners and we are just delighted to be in the draw.”

Benitez is set to meet American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett in the next few days.

The Spaniard’s position has been under scrutiny after he made public his frustrations over the release of more funds to ensur the club seals his targets for the January transfer window.

He added: “I was not thinking about the meeting. I must simply try to do my job.

“You could see the players, supporters, everyone were together. Everyone wants to win and we should talk about that, not the meeting.

“I am always confident – you can see that the players and supporters are happy, and this is good for the future of the club.

“I am not thinking about my situation every day, I am just thinking about my team and how they can improve.”

Marseille coach Eric Gerets, said: “Every time Liverpool went forward, they looked dangerous.

“I am really disappointed with what happened. We missed the game totally.

von Oliver Kahles - am 12.12.2007 17:32

Tommy Smith: Credit due for stunning show

WHEN it’s needed most Liverpool have that incredible knack of producing the performance they require.

Make no mistake about it, the mauling of Marseille ranks as the best of the season.

The players deserve all the plaudits for their tremendous show and Rafa Benitez, who I have had a go at in the piece below, must be congratulated for the way his team went about their mission.

But I admit to being totally confused.

How can we play that badly on Saturday and then turn it on last night? How can we pick up one point from the first three Champions League games, look dead and buried (almost), and then win our next three and score 16 goals into the bargain?

One minute you are watching the Reds, as at Reading, thinking what the hell is going on. The next, you see a European tie in which they were majestic.

Benitez put pressure on himself with Saturday’s result, but it all evaporated in the two-goal salvo early on and character of a brilliant team effort.

Perhaps the manager must take into account that players are more durable than he thinks. They can play three games in a week.

When he picks his best team we can beat anyone. On this show it doesn’t matter being first or second in the group. That 4-0 romp sent a message to all the other sides – and who will want to face them on that form?

The difference in the last two games has been unbelievable. We had consistency before Reading, let’s now have it from here on, with our best team.

I was thrilled to bits. They meant business from the start, effectively killing off the French side with the Gerrard rebound and a stunning goal from Fernando Torres – what a player.

We were solid at the back, and were always going forward. Kuyt’s goal settled it and Babel’s was the icing on the cake.

Perhaps Rafa should tell his players they’re playing Real Madrid on Sunday, followed by Barcelona in the Carling Cup next week! Two more cup finals and, with the pressure on, the Reds usually turn it on.

Well done, lads. Well done, Rafa. I’ll happily buy him a drink next time I see him if he likes.

Accepting defeat is not the Liverpool way

I WAS fuming after watching the Reds crash to defeat at Reading.

It was not just the manner of the defeat, but the blatantly obvious ploy by Rafa Benitez in looking ahead to the next game while one was still in progress. I’m referring, of course, to the substitution of Steven Gerrard which, according to the manager, was “protecting a key player”.

I was brought up believing the most important game was the next one (or the one you are playing in). You don’t worry about what comes next.

Even at 3-1 down with 20 minutes left there was still a chance of a draw, but Gerrard’s exit ended that. It seemed to me to be a signal of accepting the inevitable – and that’s not the Reds’ style.

To come up with the excuse, effectively, that “it was not our day” was nonsense.

Reading was the start of an important week in the season. United are next and that is a must win game. If the title challenge is a serious one, the others in the top four have to be beaten. So far, against Arsenal and Chelsea, we have only managed draws. Another won’t help the situation.

Benitez plays mind games at times with his players and I don’t believe that is healthy. His formation against Reading didn’t allow for width.

I hope we don’t regret the loss of those points.

von Oliver Kahles - am 12.12.2007 17:33

Re: Marseille 0, Liverpool 4

Wo ist das denn her, ich lache mich tot: ein Leopard auf Vaseline?

Herrlich, danke

von Das Kind - am 12.12.2007 17:53

Pepe Reina: We don't fear anyone

CONFIDENT Pepe Reina believes Liverpool have nothing to fear in the Champions League following their masterclass in Marseille.

The Anfield outfit booked their place in the knockout stages of the competition with a memorable 4-0 win in France on Tuesday to complete a remarkable recovery after gaining just one point from their first three Group A games.

As runners-up to Porto, Liverpool now face being handed a testing encounter in the last 16 against either AC Milan, Inter Milan, Real Madrid, Barcelona or Sevilla when the draw is made a week tomorrow.

Liverpool scored 16 goals and conceded just one in winning their final three group games to clinch an unlikely qualification.

And with Rafael Benitez’s side having already beaten both AC Milan and Barcelona in recent years, Reina reckons: “Now we have a Spanish or Italian team and we know it is going to be very difficult whoever we get, especially with the second game being away from home. But this is a difficult competition, with only the best teams around left in it now. We trust in ourselves because we have been in two finals in the last three seasons and we are one of the favourites.

“We know what we are capable of so of course we are confident. In the past in this competition we have beaten Barcelona, Juventus, Chelsea and of course Milan, who are all top, top teams. It will be tough but we are confident in ourselves and what we can do.”

However, Fernando Torres – whose 11th-minute wonder goal was the highlight of a fantastic Liverpool performance – has eyes on only one possible opponent.

“I hope that we draw Real Madrid, that would be a great tie,” he said.

“We have a chance to play a team from Spain or Italy, but playing Madrid would be really good. It would be better to play a Spanish side than an Italian one, although it would not be bad to meet Milan and gain some revenge for the final last season.”

Liverpool’s comprehensive triumph at the Stade Velodrome inflicted Marseille’s heaviest-ever home defeat in European competition.

And Reina reckons: “It was the best performance I have seen since I have been at this club. That was brilliant in terms of being so complete. We were great going forward, narrow and compact in defence and all round that made it a very easy game.

“This group was so tight that if you weren’t at 100% in every game, it was very easy to drop points.

“We have felt the pressure over the last three games, because we knew what was at stake, but we have come through it okay. We knew what we had to do and we’ve done it.”

The victory came amid continued speculation surrounding Benitez’s future. The Spaniard has been under pressure ever since making public the fall-out with American owners George Gillett and Tom Hicks over transfer strategy.

The two parties will meet in the coming days, but Reina insists the players made their own statement on the manager on Tuesday night.

“The manager is just trying to do his job and we are trying to play as well as we can on the pitch,” said the goalkeeper. “For the past two weeks we have just been trying to focus on what we have to do out there, because that’s the only place we can do our talking – and we did a lot in Marseille.

“The manager is a really cold man, he knows what to do at any moment in a game.

“And as far as the pressure is concerned, we are all always under pressure because we represent Liverpool and have to win every game. We are favourites in virtually every one we play – that’s what you have to handle every week at this club.”

von Oliver Kahles - am 13.12.2007 12:18

Auslosung Achtelfinale Champions League

Die UEFA Champions League live

Die Champions League 2007/08 ist in vollem Gange, die Jagd auf Titelverteidiger AC Mailand läuft – und zwar live bei Premiere. Denn Premiere besitzt alle Live-TV-Rechte (Pay-TV und Free-TV) an der UEFA Champions League für Deutschland* bis ins Jahr 2009. Somit können Sie bis dahin jede Saison alle 125 Partien aus Europas Königsklasse einzeln und in der packenden Konferenzschaltung live bei Premiere erleben, mindestens 112 davon exklusiv.

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Alle Abonnenten von Premiere Fußball Plus können allerdings beruhigt sein: Alle Spiele der Champions League, alle packenden Live-Konferenzen, die ausführliche Zusammenfassung und die Live-Übertragung im Internet gibt es nur bei Premiere. Der Dienstag ist als Spieltag künftig sogar immer exklusiv für Premiere Kunden reserviert.

Die nächsten Live-Termine:

Auslosung Achtelfinale
21. Dezember, live ab 11:55 Uhr

Achtelfinale, Hinspiele
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Achtelfinale, Rückspiele
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von Oliver Kahles - am 13.12.2007 17:46
YES ! :spos: Wenn es darauf ankommt, dann sind wir da. Wir haben Marseille im eigenen Stadion nicht den Funken einer Chance gelassen und uns letztendlich doch noch souverän fürs CL-Achtelfinale qualifiziert. So starke internat. Auftritte hätte ich nach den 3 Auftaktmatches ehrlich gesagt nicht mehr erwartet, aber Rafa hat immer an sein Team und den Aufstieg geglaubt und die lads haben Europa gezeigt, daß auch heuer wieder mit dem LFC zu rechnen ist !!! :cool:

...and now bring on AC Milan !!! :p


von goleador2000 - am 13.12.2007 17:46
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