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Yogi Yang, Fabrice Harari, Allard, RAUL2, Paulo Oliveira

WinDev on Cloud

Startbeitrag von Yogi Yang am 09.09.2013 14:45

Hello,

I have a need to develop a software that will run on desktop in initial stage and later on down the line it will be converted to run from cloud. So should I use WinDev for this or should I choose any other dev tool?

I would like to know whether it is possible to scale a WD based application to work from Cloud.

If Yes how?
-and-
if No why and possible work around ?


TIA

Yogi Yang

Antworten:

It depends on what in need to put in the cloud.
If it's only the db in the cloud Windev can be one option.
If you want to put the app and the db in the cloud use Webdev instead of Windev.
In this case if you develop the app using windev you have to consider using something like remote desktop to run your app in one server in the cloud, this can be one option but isn't the traditional cloud app.

Normally cloud apps are web based application and for that use Webdev.

von Paulo Oliveira - am 09.09.2013 15:46
Ok got it!

But I have seem many software that will convert a desktop app created in VB6, Delphi, etc. dev tools to Cloud App. One such app that does this is - http://online.cameyo.com/public.

But I am concerned about the database part. I was hoping that there was some tool to allow user to either build or convert existing WinDev code to cloud.

Anyways thanks.

Regards,

Yogi Yang

von Yogi Yang - am 13.09.2013 07:24
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Yogi Yang
Ok got it!

But I have seem many software that will convert a desktop app created in VB6, Delphi, etc. dev tools to Cloud App. One such app that does this is - http://online.cameyo.com/public.

But I am concerned about the database part. I was hoping that there was some tool to allow user to either build or convert existing WinDev code to cloud.

Anyways thanks.

Regards,

Yogi Yang

Hi Yogi. Very interesting site. Did you downloaded anything from there? It seems to be only a download site, but, maybe what you download is a kind of remote desktop thing...

Regards.

von RAUL2 - am 13.09.2013 12:50
Hi
you can use the db of a windev app in a webdev app. Also functions ( code ) can be used in both products.
The hassel is the GUI. A windev app cannot be converted in a webpage because a webpage is verry diferent. On the web you have client and server code etc.

But webdev does a good job. It handles all the plumming that you have with other technologies. Sessions etc are managed and that is really cool. And i works in all browsers!!

I have worked on a view projects now and although it has it;s issues it is for me a product that does the job quite well. Far more productive than using a php framework.

I have done a view projects now and they where in php modus. I must say I got the job done but there where some nasty limitations. It is stated in the documentation that php modus is limited but lots of things are possible. Well lots of things are not possible as well. The documentation states that it is possible but they are not. Indeed it is verry buggy for instance:

1 It is not possible to build a menu dynamic by programming
2 It isnot possible to add editor features like ck editor. There is no reason why it would not be possible . even pcsoft stated that it should work the same as awp pages but it just doesnot. So another BUG!

So it you start a web project. Use AWP Pages!!! otherwise you will be disappointed. I made my last site in php modus. Was a lot of work , it's a cms but without ck editor and with a semie dynamic menu. For me it;s good enough. But for potential customers it's not and that is a pitty. When I make something I tend to make it dynamic as possible so I can use it for future clients as well.

But in awp it is verry possible to make you own cms and even sell it.

Regards

Allard

von Allard - am 14.09.2013 01:37
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RAUL2

Hi Yogi. Very interesting site. Did you downloaded anything from there? It seems to be only a download site, but, maybe what you download is a kind of remote desktop thing...

Regards.

Sorry about the URL. It seems I mistakenly pasted the wrong URL.

The right one is: https://spoon.net/studio

This software allows one to convert an app and virtulize it and also upload it to their server. From where one can run the App using their plugin for various browsers.

Here is a small screen shot.
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von Yogi Yang - am 14.09.2013 04:23
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Allard

So it you start a web project. Use AWP Pages!!! otherwise you will be disappointed. I made my last site in php modus. Was a lot of work , it's a cms but without ck editor and with a semie dynamic menu. For me it;s good enough. But for potential customers it's not and that is a pitty. When I make something I tend to make it dynamic as possible so I can use it for future clients as well.

How would one deploy such web apps? Can we just upload a web app to a web server (as we do with PHP based projects) and use them (AWP) or would one have to buy some kind of special hosting service?

Can they be deployed and run locally on a company network?

von Yogi Yang - am 14.09.2013 04:33
Hi Yogi

you will need a webdev application server ($$$) on your web server to have your web site functionning (either awp or classic mode)...

So either you need a dedicated server and you'll have to buy a license, or you can use a webdev hosting provider (and there are solutions starting à 5€/month for 2 web sites and 5 HFC/S databases...). As you can see, with a price like that, there is no reason to use the PHP mode

Best regards

von Fabrice Harari - am 15.09.2013 15:27
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