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Hey i'm new to the board.....

Startbeitrag von Jeremy plays B3 am 06.01.2002 23:03

ijust wanted to say Hi and tell you some stuff about me. i'm jeremy. i'm a 24 year old musician at my church. i LOVE the hammond B3. not the X-B3, that's weak. i'm a real deal fan of the 400 pound back breaker. that's the only organ i want to play. i been looking for a place like this so i can learn as much as i can about the hammond and learn some new chords and progressions while i'm here. so if you feal like sharing with me please do so and i'll share what i can. thankyou

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Dear Jeremy,

I'm John Hondorp. I've been a Hammond Organ player for the last 25 years and I'm teaching at the Music Academy of Enschede (Holland) which is probably the only state supported academy in the world where you can study hammond B-3 as a major!
I've had students coming from Sweden, Germany, Switzerland and Japan so far.
Where re you from and please tell me more about yourself. I'd be happy to share some ïnside information"with you.

John

von John Hondorp - am 08.04.2002 22:06
Jeremy,

I just discovered the board last night, so I can share your enthusiasm-- albiet a few months behind you.

Well where do I start: If you're only 24, you've got your whole life ahead to enjoy this wooden workhorse! I'm 35 now, but met my first B3 up close and personal when I was 21; at a smokey blues club in Berkeley, Ca.

I'm curious who your first influences were, and how old you were when you first realized you dug the Hammond sound? I myself was 15 (1982), and first heard the Deep Purple song "HUSH" on the radio. I knew it was an organ, and that I liked it, but wouldn't learn until later in life what kind of organ it was. I've been hooked ever since, and have been on an endless quest to find a keyboard synth that could properly emulate that sound. I don't believe any digital synth can 100% recreate that magical tone, but the organ imitators of the late 90's and early 00's (if you will) come closer than the Juno series and DX-7 ever did.

I've owned a Roland VK-7 since Feb. 1999, and it has a lot going for it, but I finally got "the sound" when I purchased a chopped Hammond BV (with percussion kit upgrade) in Dec. 2001, and then topped it off with a Leslie 125, 6 months later. OK, so the 125 doesn't have a rotating horn up top like the 122, but it's still a Leslie, and it actually sounds very good, so long as you're not trying to play Candlestick Park with the darn thing!

Now back to your question about chords for the organ. Bear in mind, that I know diddly squat about reading sheet music. However, I have a lot of enthusiasm, a decent understanding of theory, and can spell out chord names, even if I don't understand them on the musical staves.
I have learned to play the reverse of most organists. I play single finger bass with the left hand, and 90% of my 3 and 4 finger chords with the right hand.
Most of my examples are referenced to the key of E simply because it's my favorite blues key to solo in.

Dominant Seven, Sharp Nine (dom7 #9).

Played as an Edom7 #9, that would be E in the bass with the left hand (either played single, or doubled as a 1-8), and then G#, D, G with the right hand. In this case, the G# is the major 3rd, the D is the flatted or minor 7th, and the G is the minor 3rd an octave above the major 3rd you started with. When referencing notes above the octave (perfect 8th), I've usually seen the notes expressed as the odd ordinal numbers 9th, 11th, 13th, and 15th. In this case F# (major 2nd in key of E) would be the natural 9th, so I can only surmise that a half step above that (the minor 3rd), would be a sharped 9th.
When you play a major 3rd with a minor 7th, the result is always dominant. In this case I've omitted the 5th (B), and E (the tonic, or 1st) is implied by being played in the bass. So the essence of the chord is captured in the maj3, min7 and #9 (or min3 up top).
You'll notice this chord has a strong, biting edge to it. That's because a minor 3rd and major 3rd are being sounded at the same time. Those two are a minor 2nd or half step apart, and this is the most dissonant interval in music. However by separating them out on opposite ends, and making one a 3rd, and the other a 9th, I've subtle-ized the harsh effect and smoothed out the chord considerably.

Blues musicians use this chord extensively as the final passage in the V chord, before resolving back to the I.

Another one you might try is the chord that the long play version of "Green Eyed Lady" (Sugarloaf-1972) ended on. It's a great chord to start the Leslie on slow and ramp it up while you hold the chord.
Again, in the key of E, that would be E in the bass, and up top would be:

G B D# F#

min3rd 5th maj7th 9th

I really don't know what a music teacher would name this chord, but since most chords get their names from what the 3rd is, and the 9th is natural, I would call it a minor9 sharp7, or E min 9 #7.

Because a major 7th has no business being in a minor scale, it's the odd man out, and is therefore referenced as a sharp, relative to the minor 7th that really ought to be there, but isn't. (At least that's my opinion.)

At any rate the chord sounds good.

Finally, any suspended 4th sounds good on the organ. Two perfect 4th's strung together in series forms a tonic, 4th, min7th chord. Throw the 5th in between the 4th and min7th, and you get a classic sus4th in root position. The beauty of this thing is in it's ability to resolve it to a dominant 7th, merely by bringing the perfect 4th down a half step to a maj3rd.

Examp: C F G Bb
1st 4th 5th min7th
resolves to....
C E G Bb
1st maj3rd 5th min7th

There's way more I could share, but I don't want to royally confuse you. My email is b3burner@ca.astounitv.net, if you have any more chord questions.

Have fun.

John O'Flaherty, (Concord, California)

von John O"Flaherty - am 23.10.2002 11:11
DON'T TOUCH MY BILLY BOT. DON'T YOU TOUCH MY BILLY BOT.......GOTDAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

von FRANK - am 07.01.2003 09:24
I'm new on the board too. I'm not sure how to do this. Have you heard the Hammond internet radio station at

[www.live365.com]

von James Ferguson - am 17.01.2003 04:20
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