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Gernot Geise - Satellit

Startbeitrag von Heiner Peters am 30.07.2006 21:39


ich habe eine Frage hierzu:


Der Mann behauptet, der Satellit TRET-A sei zum Vortäuschen des Funkverkehrs eingesetzt worden.

Das Problem: Der Schreiber gibt keine Quellen an, auf die er sich bezieht.

Über Google bin ich leider nicht weit gekommen, die ersten Einträge verwiesen auf Geise selbst.

Frage: Weiß jemand etwas über diesen Satelliten?


Wie üblich leeres Geschwafel von Geise.
Wenn mit TETR-A geübt wurde, wussten das natürlich alle. Und solange das Ding nicht irgendwo auf dem Mond steht, würde man schnell feststellen, das Signale nicht vom Mond, sondern von einem Satelliten kommen.

Von [www.insideksc.cjb.net]


The lack of concrete evidence to support these hoax claims apparently does not hinder these shameless hucksters. These individuals rely on a bevy of misinterpretations, ignorant observations and "smoke and mirrors" to entice prospective followers. For example, moon hoax advocate Bart Sibrel issued a claim that NASA used an unmanned satellite to mimic the Apollo 11 spacecraft back in July 1969. Sibrel said," Another overlooked intriguing fact is that NASA launched the TETR-A satellite just months before the first lunar mission. The proclaimed purpose was to simulate transmissions coming from the moon so that the Houston ground crews (all those employees sitting behind computer screens at Mission Control) could "rehearse" the first moon landing. In other words, though NASA claimed that the satellite crashed shortly before the first lunar mission (a misinformation lie), its real purpose was to relay voice, fuel consumption, altitude, and telemetry data as if the transmissions were coming from an Apollo spacecraft as it neared the moon. Very few NASA employees knew the truth because they believed that the computer and television data they were receiving was the genuine article. Merely a hundred or so knew what was really going on; not tens of thousands as it might first appear."

Here are the hard facts about this tiny "transponder" satellite:
Launch Date/Time: 1967-12-13
TETR-A was a very small magnetically stabilized satellite instrumented with a s-band transponder to provide training to Apollo ground stations. The instrumentation included the 9.5 watt s-band transponder, a PAM/FM/PM telemeter encoder and 100 milliwatt VHF transmitter. The spacecraft was built by Thompson Ramo Wooldridge, Inc. The orbit was lower than planned and as a result it reentered the atmosphere April 28, 1968. However, the intended mission was accomplished. MSFN worked with it in more than 600 passes and it was used in four network mission simulations.

The historical record contradicts the claims by Sibrel. TETR-A was launched more than a year and a half prior to Apollo 11, not "just months before" the first moon landing. I relayed Sibrel's claim to one member of the Apollo mission tracking team and here is his response: "We had a “Test and Training Satellite” which was for us to train on for lunar tracking. It had little more than a transponder and some housekeeping telemetry and limited life. It wasn’t really needed as we had Lunar Orbiter and Surveyor spacecraft which were used for some training. The spacecraft was initially known as “TTS” but I think this conflicted with another (military?) name. So “TETR” was used."

It is also clear from the technical specifications of this little satellite, that it would not be capable of handling the combined telemetry, voice and video signals required to "fake" an Apollo mission.

Another authoritative expert, Jay Windley adds: "

"The controllers at MCC got their information from the MSFN. Regardless of what satellite station picked it up, it was relayed to MCC through other channels. The MCC simulations relied on test data sent through the ground-based portions of the MCC. There was no need to launch a satellite to simulate transmissions for Houston controllers since they wouldn’t necessarily have known the signal’s origin anyway, either in simulation or real life.

But the tracking people wouldn’t have been fooled. They tracked the spacecraft using the Doppler shift of the signal, something you can’t fake with a satellite. This was amazingly accurate work. They could detect fluctuations due to the sublimators and the waste dumps. These people used the NATURE of the signal, not its content.

Yet another completely un-testable hoax theory. When people fail to come up with any information on the alleged satellite, Sibrel will simply claim that all the information on it was “naturally” destroyed or classified so we wouldn’t know about it.
But Sibrel’s comments make absolutely no sense to someone who knows how the MSFN operated."

Mike Dinn (MSFN participant) says:

TETR (or TTS or TATS) were earth orbiting only so could hardly play a role in a moon hoax. Orbital info is at [www.friends-partners.org] The orbit was fairly high and elliptical to help in providing common view between MSFN stations so that handover procedures could be exercised. We used to train such handovers between Honeysuckle Creek (east Australia) and Carnarvon (Western Australia). However TETR 1 was only up for 4 months from Dec 1967, and by the time TETR 2 was launched (Nov 68) we would have had many hours of Apollo 7 tracking under our belts. TETR C failed and TETR D was 1971. Can’t imagine what that was used for!

von Harald Kucharek - am 30.07.2006 21:56
Besten Dank, das hilft mir sehr weiter.

Ich war mir nicht sicher, wie ich das einordnen sollte mit dem Satelliten.

von Heiner Peters - am 30.07.2006 22:14
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