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Grundig Fine Arts T-9000 vs T-1000

Startbeitrag von Nick_G am 13.09.2015 13:24

Hi all.

I came across an old thread on here (http://radioforum.foren.mysnip.de/read.php?8773,1226592,1314445#msg-1314445) which mentions the Grundig Fine Arts T-1000. It was apparently the successor to the T-9000/T-9009. How does it compare with the T-9000? Is it a better tuner? It sounds like it should be good with 3 IF bandwidths and two aerial sockets.

I found an expired listing on eBay and the selectivity specification of >86dB for ±300 kHz is very impressive, better than the Onkyo T-9990.

How does RDS decoding perform? Is it fast and sensitive?

Thanks for any help on this.

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Hi Nick,
which tuner in your signature is the best one for DX?

von B.Zwo - am 13.09.2015 20:40
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B.Zwo
Hi Nick,
which tuner in your signature is the best one for DX?


Hi there. The Sony XDR-F1HD is my best tuner for DX performance. The audio quality isn't as good as my other tuners though and the Sony ST-SA5ES has the fastest RDS decoding.

That Grundig looks like another one worth trying. Intriguingly the spec sheet says 'dynamic selectivity':

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Grundig-Fine-Arts-T-1000-High-End-Tuner-in-silber-oder-schwarz-/00/s/MTAyNFg5ODU=/z/QVAAAOSwMmBVx4T8/$_57.JPG

Does this mean it has DYNAS like the Onkyo T-4970?

von Nick_G - am 13.09.2015 20:58
Maybe no-one here has tried one. A pity it wasn't available in the UK.

von Nick_G - am 17.09.2015 18:24
When the"Fine Arts" series emerged, Grundig was already on the decreasing path. The quality of the traditional "Satellit" world receivers and the "Music Boy" portable radios had already been greatly reduced when the Fine Arts series were introduced. If memory serves correctly, they were manufactured in Portugal. However, in the early nineties, the Japanese producers had the mainstream market including the better range firmly in their mittens.

Though the Satellit 700 has been popular in the portable DX range until recently I always got the impression of a shoddier look and feel compared to the older models. Back than, I would always have bought a Matsushita stereo set (which in fact, I have done), disregarding Grundig altogether. They still offered some good TVs in the "Monolith" series, though. But from the mid-nineties on, the quality went down also in this last segment of traditional Grundig quality.

There is a reason that they went bankrupt, and that before they even had stopped selling in several markets altogether.

von Alqaszar - am 19.09.2015 23:25
Thanks Alqaszar. I do prefer the looks of the T-9000; the T-1000 looks a bit cheap and 'clunky'. Those selectivity specs and the fact that 'dynamic selectivity' is the phrase used has got me curious to try one though.

As for the Japanese tuners, I could see the Kenwood L-1000T becoming a favourite once I have sent it to a tech for a service and alignment.

von Nick_G - am 20.09.2015 07:35
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Nick_G
Thanks Alqaszar. I do prefer the looks of the T-9000; the T-1000 looks a bit cheap and 'clunky'. Those selectivity specs and the fact that 'dynamic selectivity' is the phrase used has got me curious to try one though.

As for the Japanese tuners, I could see the Kenwood L-1000T becoming a favourite once I have sent it to a tech for a service and alignment.


If DX-friends say the Grundig Fine Arts T9000 does not have a very good Qualitätt has simply no idea what this really is.

I rather prefer the very low-noise front-end in the T9000 as another Japanese.

A modified T9000 (82kHz / 100kHz filter in Narrow Sector) is a very good (low Noise) Dx machine.

I wish the best DX !

von Nelixx - am 20.09.2015 08:20
I own a Grundig Fine Arts T 1000 and I can say it is a really good tuner: It is sensitive, it has an excellent selectivity ( especially when when set to “super narrow”, but then the sound quality is slightly reduced) and the RDS-section is top ( very quick identification, it has radiotext, PTY and clock). With its two aerial sockets and the possibility to store the bandwith and the 10 db attenuation it manages every situation, e.g. using it with a terrestrial antenna or with cable. The HiFi sound quality is excellent compared to my other stereo tuners.
Since I own no T 9000/T 9009, I can not directly compare the T 1000 with them as a DX machine. In a german HiFi board I read that the frontend of the T 9000/9009 is similar to the Grundig T 7500 ( which is an excellent performer but without RDS because from 1982) and that the T 7500 is a better DX machine than the later Fine Arts T 1000.
A clear disadvantage of the “late” Grundig Fine Arts Series ( e.g. T 1000) compared to the “early series” ( with wooden side panels e.g. T 9000/T 9009) is the reduced quality of the cabinet: The T 1000 is a “light weighted” set.

von Router - am 20.09.2015 12:33
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Router
I own a Grundig Fine Arts T 1000 and I can say it is a really good tuner: It is sensitive, it has an excellent selectivity ( especially when when set to “super narrow”, but then the sound quality is slightly reduced) and the RDS-section is top ( very quick identification, it has radiotext, PTY and clock). With its two aerial sockets and the possibility to store the bandwith and the 10 db attenuation it manages every situation, e.g. using it with a terrestrial antenna or with cable. The HiFi sound quality is excellent compared to my other stereo tuners.
Since I own no T 9000/T 9009, I can not directly compare the T 1000 with them as a DX machine. In a german HiFi board I read that the frontend of the T 9000/9009 is similar to the Grundig T 7500 ( which is an excellent performer but without RDS because from 1982) and that the T 7500 is a better DX machine than the later Fine Arts T 1000.
A clear disadvantage of the “late” Grundig Fine Arts Series ( e.g. T 1000) compared to the “early series” ( with wooden side panels e.g. T 9000/T 9009) is the reduced quality of the cabinet: The T 1000 is a “light weighted” set.


Thanks Router. I'm surprised that the older T-7500 is a better DXer than the Fine Arts T-1000. Looking at a picture of the T-7500 I don't see any wide and narrow bandwidth switch. Or is it more sensitive?

Does the T-1000 have DYNAS like the Onkyo T-4970?

von Nick_G - am 20.09.2015 15:28
I've got a T-7500 and it is definitely no DX-Machine without any filter modification. Indeed, there is no bandwidth switch. The sound of the T--7500 is very good, but therefore the selectivity is not appropriate for DXing.

von Funkohr - am 20.09.2015 17:00
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Nick_G
Does the T-1000 have DYNAS like the Onkyo T-4970?
No, I don't think so.

von B.Zwo - am 15.10.2015 21:31
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