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F1 questions/discussion

Startbeitrag von Mathias Haas am 25.09.2001 23:29

Hello!

I'm recently the proud owner of a FG-F1 car and I'm only beginning to understand how this wonderful car works. Some questions remain unanswered though and I hope to find other people here in this forum to help me.

Q1: The clutch. I've spoken to a few people here and we all seem to experience the same thing - It takes too long before the car accelerates. What can you do about this?

Q2: The rear-brakes. Metal against metal, how clever is that? Has anyone improved this? (I bought the front disc brakes after one session...)

Q3: Set-up. What are you all using? I'm running 2 deg. toe-in and one degree camber on the rear wheels and two degrees toe-in and camber in front. It seems to work, but I have NO idea if this is any good! :-) I haven't started to look at the caster yet...

Q4: Tires. What are you using? Where do you buy them? Which ones are best for what surface?

Q5: Last but not least: The stickers! What's the best method to apply those helmet decals? (Round surface, flat sticker!)

I'd really like to see some discussions around this!

Kind regards,
Mathias Haas
Sweden

Antworten:


Q1: The clutch. I've spoken to a few people here and we all seem to
experience the same thing - It takes too long before the car accelerates.
What can you do about this?
Answer. The car is heavy and the engine down on power as it is standard so the clutch has to come in later. We initially put 1mm washers under the clutch springs then went to the three shoe adjustable one. Laterly Friedel and FG have released the quick engine mounts which allow you to use normal clutches of which there is quite a number.


Q2: The rear-brakes. Metal against metal, how clever is that? Has anyone
improved this? (I bought the front disc brakes after one session...)

ANS.Not as bad asyou think but you must remember how FG sells most of his cars. They usually need the bits bolting on them to realise the true potential


Q3: Set-up. What are you all using? I'm running 2 deg. toe-in and one degree
camber on the rear wheels and two degrees toe-in and camber in front. It
seems to work, but I have NO idea if this is any good! :-) I haven't started
to look at the caster yet...

ANS. Front.....1.5 negative camber pressed down. 1 degree toe out. 12mm ground clearance. Rear....... 2 degrees toe in 1 degree camber pressed down.

Q4: Tires. What are you using? Where do you buy them? Which ones are best
for what surface?

ANS. Front use S1 or M and the rear use S1 This all depends on track and conditions. PMT tyres use 27/30 front and 10 or 15 rear.

Q5: Last but not least: The stickers! What's the best method to apply those
helmet decals? (Round surface, flat sticker!)
ANS. Wet the helmet first so you can slide them round at ease. With a craft knike gently do slits on the curve to get it lying flat.

von Rev-Up - am 26.09.2001 08:54
Hello Chris!
Thank´s for your very fast answere.
With compliments
Hans

von one5scale - am 26.09.2001 10:01
The FG 1 car is very easy to set up.

For the front shocks use 5000 oil and the rear use 3000

Red springs front and blue rear\are a good combination. Have tried progressive spings but not asgood as the originals. Use yellow on the front in the wet.

For the front you could try moving the caster forwards to kill the horrendous camber angle on fulllock but if you do this you must warm up the rear tyres to give almost instant grip otherwise the front end will turn and the back will stepout.

von Rev-Up - am 26.09.2001 13:35
First of all, thanks for all your feedback! I'm very grateful.

Rev-Up wrote:
> The car is heavy and the engine down on power as it is
> standard so the clutch has to come in later. We initially put
> 1mm washers under the clutch springs then went to the three
> shoe adjustable one. Laterly Friedel and FG have released the
> quick engine mounts which allow you to use normal clutches of
> which there is quite a number.

The three shoe adjustable clutch - is that the same one Hobbythek is selling? ( [www.rc-car-online.de] )

When you say normal clutches, which ones are you refering to then?

I think my top speed is average, and pretty bad compared to 1:8 cars or even my old Inferno... I assume that changing the gear disk on the engine to one with fewer teeth would improve acceleration a bit. But in that case I have to improve my top speed to even it out - and I think I've found a good setting for the needle on the carburetor, I'm not sure I can improve much there.

> Brakes: Not as bad asyou think but you must remember how FG sells
> most of his cars. They usually need the bits bolting on them
> to realise the true potential

Hmm... I still think it's weird they didn't insert any kind of padding between the discs and the flat metal bars... This has to wear down the discs pretty fast.

> Setup: Front.....1.5 negative camber pressed down. 1 degree toe
> out. 12mm ground clearance. Rear....... 2 degrees toe in 1
> degree camber pressed down.

Toe-out in the front is interesting. I guess this give better turning in the curves. I didn't dare using toe-out in the front, I thought the car would become unruly.

Is caster something you can or should change on the F1 ?

> Tires: Front use S1 or M and the rear use S1 This all depends
> on track and conditions. PMT tyres use 27/30 front and 10 or
> 15 rear.

I'm currently running my car on an extremely slippery track, when it's a little bit wet it's very close to ice! :-) I'm thinking about the PMT 10 (rear) and 20 front. But do you think 27/30 is better anyway?

Is there any noticable difference between PMT and FG:s own tires?

von Mathias Haas - am 26.09.2001 19:59
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